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A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by mike on Sun Jul 17, 2011 11:39 am

I agree, and as I've stated further, I know that many of the homes that look like long term rented out homes by big greedy landlords are actually second homes virtually abandoned or relatives are living in and not taking care of. This is a big problem, agreed.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Sat Jul 09, 2011 9:53 pm

Starting in 1954, John Cooper designed CV as a community with major characteristics of

1) A vacation destination
2) A retirement village
and
3) A second home location


From the 2030 Plan.

Hi Forum,

I would like to take up #3 of the above. We have been speaking a lot about Code Enforcement and the need or lack of need for for regulation. One of the essential reasons for the need is the number of "second homes" in the Village. As the saying goes, "out of sight, out of mind." The problem is that it isn't "out of sight" to those folks left behind to live next to those second homes. Without Code Enforcements excellent work, it would be a serious problem. In fact, it has been in the past.

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Post by mike on Wed Jul 06, 2011 2:01 pm

I've heard the exact same thing from others who were in the village in the 60s and 70s. I still remember my first time in the village in the early 70s. My mother found some old pics of our first trip to CV in probably 72 or 73 and I will scan them and put them up here. You should see the beach, very interesting pics.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed Jul 06, 2011 12:12 am

Hi Forum,

I was speaking today with a second generation CVer. His folks first came in 1969 and he remembers well the early days when things were really booming. For one thing, homes didn't often come on the market and when they did they sold right away. The other thing he mentioned was the high level of community activities sponsored by various clubs and groups in the Village. On the 4th we felt some of that spirit of community and it was great. There should be focus on recapturing that sense of a shared life. This will provide the foundation for everything else in the 2030 vision.


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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:41 am

Paul says, both are true and one needs the vision to know the difference.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by trout on Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:16 am

TROUT sats "where there is tooooo much vision people will pay more taxes"

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Thu Jun 16, 2011 9:12 am

Proverbs 29:18, “Where there is no vision, the people perish.”

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Mon Jun 06, 2011 8:37 am

Governance: There is harmony between SID and city government. There is a SID/CV Bridge Commission that works the common functions and issues of these entities. Their functions include planning, promoting, and information dissemination. The ongoing Community Blueprint is adjusted and led by this Commission. From 2030 Plan

Hi Forum,

I will say again that I am pleased that this Bridge Committee has now been enacted. One area that I would like to see addressed that we have discussed elsewhere is the clearing and cutting of paths on Common Property that leads to the lake fronts. These paths don't need to be very wide. Just a tight trail down to the water's edge so the Common Property can serve its function. Some paths are established, but many aren't cleared yet or have become overgrown.

In terms of "dissemination of information" it would be helpful to have identification of which of these paths exist now for visitors. There is a general sense that the lakes need more access points. I think this can be done without compromising waterfront property owners. It is important to remember also that people with lots across from the lakes have frequently purchased those lots with the understanding that they too can get to the waterfront through these Common Property strips.


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Post by Paul2CV on Sun May 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Hi Forum,

In reviewing minutes, I am pleased to see that the 2030 Plan's recommendation to Created a "Bridge Committee" to coordinate SID and City planning has passed. This is from February 2011 Minutes:


New Business
1. Maxedon motioned to create a Commission referred to as The Bridge Commission: seconded by Newman and
unanimously passed.


Great job.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed May 11, 2011 6:03 pm

Hi Forum,

Given some of our recent discussions elsewhere on the Forum, I am reminded of the following recommendation from the 2030 plan:

Governance: There is harmony between SID and city government. There is a SID/CV Bridge Commission that works the common functions and issues of these entities. Their functions include planning, promoting, and information dissemination. The ongoing Community Blueprint is adjusted and led by this Commission.

Sounds like a good, needed, and thoughtful idea.

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Post by Paul2CV on Mon May 02, 2011 8:28 am

Housing: The city has afordable, quality housing built according to modern methods and standards. From 2030 Plan

Of all the 2030 goals, I find this one the most interesting to ponder in terms of the thinking that went behind it. Clearly, a large number of homes in Cherokee Village were built in a the "boom" 1970's. Some of the "inner lot" houses were cottage like and clearly scaled to the vacation home standards of the times. But all of the houses seem to me to be of quality build. And when a person ventures to the more "upscale" parts of the Village, the housing seems very high quality. I'm curious about what seems to motivate this concern.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:40 pm

Hi Forum,

I was reading the entry from the Encyclopedia of Arkansas on Cherokee village. It contained a fact that amazed me.

The development of Cherokee Village in 1955 had a profound impact on Arkansas. The retirement community industry became an integral part of the state’s economy as the older Americans who flocked to Cherokee Village transformed the state into one of the most innovative and popular retirement destinations in the United States. According to the University of Arkansas (UA) in Fayetteville (Washington County), the state is the ninth most popular choice in the United States for retirees.

I am amazed that Arkansas is now the 9th most popular place for retirees. CV is also given a lot of credit for getting that trend going.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:56 pm

What can I say trout? You've got a point! lol

Still, I opt for rebuilding them at some point. There are still times at night before the road blocks go up.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by trout on Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:17 pm

Paul, they put road barriers up on both sides of the low water areas. What does it take to get dummies' attention a brick against the head. Come on surely they can read 'ROAD CLOSED'. These are people with NO COMMON SENSE AT ALL.
In cases like that they deserve what happens to them. We in LE call that a "learning experience moment". So next time just maybe they use that thing between their ears before making another stupid move.

They say God takes care of babies and fools, I wonder about the ones who drive through high water.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:51 pm

Hi Mike,

I try hard not to be an "I told you so kinda guy"!!! lol. In fact, I really agree with folks who find the "low water bridge" thing sort of quaint. The problem is what trout points out. You really can't expect folks to have common sense. Everyone knows it's not very common! Moreover, we haver elderly folks who can have a hard time making a judgment about what's safe or not, plus night driving conditions with low visibility and visitors who wouldn't expect to come upon a "low water bridge." Bottom line, they're quaint but dangerous.

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Post by mike on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:14 pm

Now Paul before you say "I told you so" Very Happy , even if it washes out again in two years, I still vote to keep it going the way it is.

Now give it your best shot LOL!

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by mike on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:11 pm

the main one in front of town center, the playground, king-rhodes etc

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by trout on Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:32 pm

Mike which low water bridge surely not the Flathead bridge.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by mike on Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:55 pm

word has it, part of the road has washed out at the low water bridge by town center. this flood is worse the 2008. lake sequoyah overnight last night rose as the spillway couldnt handle it all going down to the waterfall by TC. Hardy is a mess.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by mike on Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:26 pm

trout wrote:Paul the cost can not be justified since flooding happens just a few times a year. Now common sense funding would be a worthy cost since there seems to be a large amount of lets just say people with limited common sense when it comes to trying to cross a low area in high water. I am amazed at the number of "dummies" that try to cross those two areas during flooding.

Hahahahahaha, no argument here. It's actually somewhat comical to watch the "not so bright among us" on purpose try to cross rapidly moving water because they "think" they're in a hurry! The problem is it's dangerous and we cannot protect 100% of the population from exercising their right to be an idiot.

Keep the bridge. Get rid of the "not so bright among us swollen river crossing attempters" ! cheers

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Post by trout on Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:22 am

Paul the cost can not be justified since flooding happens just a few times a year. Now common sense funding would be a worthy cost since there seems to be a large amount of lets just say people with limited common sense when it comes to trying to cross a low area in high water. I am amazed at the number of "dummies" that try to cross those two areas during flooding.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by mike on Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:21 am

Here's my two cents for what it's worth. This is one issue where I kind of like it the way it is and would rather do nothing. The low water bridges are some of the mystique and quaintness of the village, especially the one at town center. So a few days a year it's underwater for a brief time, so what? It's some of the fun of the village and it's worked fine for 5 decades, so I would leave it alone. I don't see the rush, because eventually down the road, some state and/or federal law is inevitably going to mandate a bridge requirement for a bridge/waterway like that and it will have to be replaced by the state or the feds. So for now, I just like it the way it is. Very Happy

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Tue Apr 26, 2011 7:29 am

The 2030 plan wants to replace the low water bridges. Anyone notice how those bridges are working at the moment? What if you were visiting? I think 2030 is on to something.

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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed Apr 20, 2011 8:41 am

"There is a beautiful Medical Park nearby."
2030 Plan

This goal is one that CV residents want to see happen above all others. However, we need to ask a question and it is a hard one. Are we presently having a problem with Doctor retention and how will it be solved? The recent odd story at Fulton Hospital raises the question.

The Fulton County Hospital Board of Governors met on Monday, March 28, and in executive session, made the decision to release Dr. Madhulika Krish from her contract.
On March 14 in Sharp County, Krish was arrested by Sharp County deputies and charged with no headlights, no proof of insurance, refusing to submit to arrest and fleeing, in an altercation that began due to Krish driving without her headlights on."We have enjoyed working with Dr. Krish and wish her well in her future endeavors, but at this time, both Dr. Krish and the Board felt it was best to part ways," said Hospital Administrator Joe Hammond. http://www.areawidenews.com/story/1716368.html


It might be a "chicken and the egg" situation. Until we have a "Medical Park," we won't be able to retain and bring new high-quality Doctors into the area. Fortunately, we do have several excellent local ones now but they do not have the supporting medical structures around them or the area needed specialists.


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Re: A Better Cherokee Village Plan Vision 2030

Post by Paul2CV on Wed Apr 13, 2011 8:12 am

"You were attracted to CV because of its inviting web site with fresh information of all the activities and services available there." From 2030 Vision Statement

I simply want to commend the City for fulfilling this part of the Vision already with a fresh website. Again, if you haven't checked it out, here's the link:

http://www.cherokeevillage.org


Any ideas for additions to it?

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